Chris and I have been going to the Officer Christian Fellowship for about a month now thinking it would be a good way to fellowship and encourage one another with fellow believers. But the last two weeks have been more like the officer Calvanist Indoctrination Fellowship. I don't like to argue or debate with people but I could not sit still and not defend God the father and our Lord Jesus Christ as people professing themselves to be wise spewed heresies out of their mouths based on some man's teachings that don't rightly divide the word of truth. The issue at hand: God chooses some people for heaven and some for hell and the people have no choice to decide if they would like to go to heaven or if they would like to go to hell. All from Romans chapter 9 which I agree with completely when you read it in light with other scripture.
2 timothy 2:15 " Study to shew thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth."
1)God choose Jacob to be in the lineage of the savior but he didnt choose him to go to heaven Jacob went to heaven because he looked forward to the promise of the savior nor did he choose Esau for hell. This has nothing to do with heaven or hell.
2)God hardened pharohs heart. Yes I agree but not before God was longsuffering to him, pharoah hardened his own heart against God before God hardened his heart. Pharoah had and opportunity to obey and serve God it was not God's fault. Exodus 8:15 "But when Pharaoh saw that there was respite, he hardened his heart, and hearkended not unto them..."
3)God has mercy on who he will have mercy and harden whom he will harden. I dont' have an issue with this verse either God tells us who he will choose to give grace to and who he won't but not arbitrarily James 4:5 " God resisteth the proud but giveth grace unto the humble" Again not God's fault that some will not humble themselves by realizing they are sinners deserving of hell and need a savior.
I dont' disagree that God is sovereign I know he could do anything he wants he could force us to go to hell or heaven if he wanted to and I wouldn't have a problem believing that if that is what the bible said. But God says that he is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance 1 Peter 3:9. so is God not powerful enough that he can't force his will that none should perish and make all go to heaven? No he is powerful enough but he by his grace gives us the opportunity to humble ourselves to repent and believe that gospel and be saved! What a savior I don't claim to know more about the bible that anyone else but I know what truth is and tommy Nelson is not truth.
Thy word is truth!!!